The 4% Rule was about investing in balanced funds (perhaps a 60/40 fund, 60% stock mixed with 40% bonds), thought a safety factor since bond income is not affected by a down stock market (but bonds do not pay what stocks can). An issue of a 4% Rule is that it does not specify any specific fund type nor gain capability, nor any specific fund value. More money should always provide withdrawals longer. My interest was in the suitability of a 4% Rule for withdrawals from a 100% S&P 500 fund. This calculator uses actual past market data, but does not know the future market. So that assumes the same performance as the past, but my guess is the future should be better (but not without some issues. This article is intended as a guide about planning a safe and sustainable investment and retirement withdrawal plan from a S&P 500 Index fund that would survive typical bad market times (like those which have actually happened). The long term overall rewards are well worth it. All S&P 500 Index funds track the same S&P 500 Index, but their annual fund fees do vary (so look for a low fee).
Withdrawals cost the investment far more than just the dollars withdrawn. It also costs all the substantial long term future compounded earnings those withdrawal dollars could have earned. That compounding over the years is a mighty big deal. If your age has the years available, don't waste them. My opinion of the best plan is of course to start early to have the many years compounding, and postpone all withdrawals until retirement, so the fund will continue growing, and will be there when actually needed. Then (if you have planned early enough) withdrawing that's needed to supplement Social Security. Money makes money, so the gains become far larger when your fund has grown large. Do realize that your retirement certainly is coming, when you might have 30 years (to age 95) without a salary. It's only reasonable to plan for affording long term care too, but planning to leave plenty to the kids instead is yet another plan. The point here is the valid concern that continuous withdrawals during earlier years or during bear market downturns (before the fund has grown to be able to afford the withdrawals too) could deplete a fund, ending it prematurely, not lasting long enough for retirement.
A 2nd calculation done here is a Withdrawal Survival Depletion Test (results below the S&P 500 calculator) which when enabled, performs an examination for S&P 500 Index funds to show how market drops and/or withdrawals have survived in the past bad bear market history typical of the real world over the last 55 years. The Depletion Test is not turned on the first initial time, because starting every year involves computing about 1540 years (takes a second or two on my computer), automatically restarting at every starting year of the 55 years. You can turn it on if interested, but it may be slower on a slower computer. The main calculator will also of course show any withdrawal depletion crashes for data you enter, but the Depletion Test tests your withdrawals starting at every year over the 55 years (for example 2000 was not a good starting year). Experiment a bit and you will see what it does. Again, it is past data, but it is actual data that did happen, so perhaps it is typical possibilities.
But there is also a lot more here. This page is just the calculators (and some history statistics), but the page was far too long as one page, so the introductory material describing the S&P 500 and the market and the 4% Rule was reluctantly moved to a second page at A few Market Things you need to know if you don’t already. If you are new to the market, it's there if you want to see it.
My strong suggestion is: Plan and start preparing decades early for retirement, because many years of compounding is your best investment tool. Reinvest all dividends and don't withdraw anything until retirement. It is going to happen, stopping your salary then, but you might have 30 years still left. So preparing for it should be a major thought, to avoid moving to the street. Take a minute now to consider the seriousness of that. Then the final amount available at retirement might be a huge pleasant surprise. Relatively massive withdrawals might be possible during retirement if there were enough investing years (see the Example 4 below).
We can't know future performance, however the overall S&P annual gain has always averaged about 10% a year (for at least 50 years or maybe 100, price-wise, without including dividends), and even more in its good years, but also with losses in a few bad years. Multiple bad years in a row, combined with fund withdrawals can crash a fund. We have had some pretty bad times, 1972-74, 1981-82, 2000-03, 2008, the pandemic in 2020, and of course 2022. The same kind of periodic market crashes could happen, so the past is good as typical examples, and are still routinely expected now and then (the bitter with the sweet, which averages out, and the sweet easily wins). There is much more good times than bad, so it is very good overall. If your withdrawal strategies survives those past times, it likely survives any future times too. If your withdrawals don't deplete the account when down, then it has always recovered, and the good times are sweet. We can't see the future, but the calculator below computes "how much" occurred in past "typical" bad crashes. You might plan for some of it by having more fund money in the fund, and by eliminating withdrawals, especially during bad market times.
Continued withdrawals as dollar amounts can be dangerous. Fixed amounts need to be adjusted lower when the market is down, because a fixed dollar amount can seriously deplete the account when low. For example, fixed withdrawals of only $200 per month (foolishly starting at first year) depletes this S&P 500 fund in 18 starting years since 1970 (meaning, withdrawing soon after starting, before it grows, or in low periods, are dangerous). Whereas a percentage recomputes dollar amounts every year based on fund value. Withdrawals of course reduce your investment, and it should be obvious that it also seriously reduces your future compounded gains. The good plan is to add more investment all along instead of reducing it. So let your investment grow for maybe 30 years, and only start withdrawing at retirement, and that becomes an extremely different picture, and surely matches your retirement goals better too.
Withdrawing a percentage amount (percentage dollars adjusted every year, to be same percentage) is much safer, is less dollars when fund is low and more when high, but 12% withdrawal even starting at First year won't grow noticeably, but does not fail here (withdrawals that about match the growth rate do not grow).
There are several guided examples below. More money in the fund (after it grows) will always last longer, but technically, if no withdrawals, the fund does not go bust in the bad periods even if starting with only $300 in 1970 (the Lower Limit of $100 that defines Depletion can affect that test result).
See Example 8 here to show the idea about first investing 30 years for 30 more years of retirement without withdrawals. Then the example shows retirement withdrawals starting in 2000 (even if 1973-1974 and 2000 to 2008 were particularly bad times in the market). 56 years is a long time, but the calculator can be started in any year. Retirement should plan on a prior 30 or 40 years of investment growth first, if at all possible. Otherwise, you sure better make some other plan for retirement.
The S&P 500 had 70 record high closes in 2021, but the last record high close before 19 Jan 2024 was 3 Jan 2022 at 4796.56 (this chart reached $5 Million then, end of 2021). But when the market is down, cashing in at that point simply makes the loss be real and permanent. So sit tight, and it always eventually recovers and continues growth. While it is low is the time to invest more, before that recovery gain.
Or see the S&P 500 daily market action, including the past S&P 500 record highs.
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| Price Gain $ | Dividend $ | Net fund Value $ | Gain + Div $ | Div % | Year End | S&P Year Close $ | Price Gain % | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1.05 | 2026 | 7666.45 | |||||||
| 1.20 | 2025 | 6845.50 | |||||||
| 1.71 | 2024 | 5881.63 | |||||||
| 2.06 | 2023 | 4769.83 | |||||||
| 1.33 | 2022 | 3839.50 | |||||||
| 1.82 | 2021 | 4766.18 | |||||||
| 2.14 | 2020 | 3756.07 | |||||||
| 2.61 | 2019 | 3230.78 | |||||||
| 1.86 | 2018 | 2506.85 | |||||||
| 2.41 | 2017 | 2673.61 | |||||||
| 2.42 | 2016 | 2238.83 | |||||||
| 2.11 | 2015 | 2043.94 | |||||||
| 2.30 | 2014 | 2058.90 | |||||||
| 2.79 | 2013 | 1848.36 | |||||||
| 2.59 | 2012 | 1426.19 | |||||||
| 2.11 | 2011 | 1257.60 | |||||||
| 2.28 | 2010 | 1257.64 | |||||||
| 3.01 | 2009 | 1115.10 | |||||||
| 1.49 | 2008 | 903.25 | |||||||
| 1.96 | 2007 | 1468.36 | |||||||
| 2.17 | 2006 | 1418.30 | |||||||
| 1.91 | 2005 | 1248.29 | |||||||
| 1.89 | 2004 | 1211.92 | |||||||
| 2.30 | 2003 | 1111.92 | |||||||
| 1.27 | 2002 | 879.82 | |||||||
| 1.15 | 2001 | 1148.08 | |||||||
| 1.04 | 2000 | 1320.28 | |||||||
| 1.51 | 1999 | 1469.25 | |||||||
| 1.91 | 1998 | 1229.23 | |||||||
| 2.35 | 1997 | 970.43 | |||||||
| 2.70 | 1996 | 740.74 | |||||||
| 3.47 | 1995 | 615.93 | |||||||
| 2.86 | 1994 | 459.27 | |||||||
| 3.02 | 1993 | 466.45 | |||||||
| 3.16 | 1992 | 435.71 | |||||||
| 4.16 | 1991 | 417.09 | |||||||
| 3.46 | 1990 | 330.22 | |||||||
| 4.44 | 1989 | 353.4 | |||||||
| 4.21 | 1988 | 277.72 | |||||||
| 3.22 | 1987 | 247.08 | |||||||
| 4.05 | 1986 | 242.17 | |||||||
| 5.40 | 1985 | 211.28 | |||||||
| 4.87 | 1984 | 167.24 | |||||||
| 5.29 | 1983 | 164.93 | |||||||
| 6.79 | 1982 | 140.64 | |||||||
| 4.82 | 1981 | 122.55 | |||||||
| 6.65 | 1980 | 135.76 | |||||||
| 6.13 | 1979 | 107.94 | |||||||
| 5.50 | 1978 | 96.11 | |||||||
| 4.32 | 1977 | 95.10 | |||||||
| 4.69 | 1976 | 107.46 | |||||||
| 5.65 | 1975 | 90.19 | |||||||
| 3.25 | 1974 | 68.56 | |||||||
| 2.71 | 1973 | 97.55 | |||||||
| 3.35 | 1972 | 118.05 | |||||||
| 3.52 | 1971 | 102.09 | |||||||
| 3.91 | 1970 | 92.15 | |||||||
| 2.86 | 1969 | 92.06 | |||||||
| Gain $ | Dividend $ | Net fund Value $ | Gain + Div $ | Div % | Year End | S&P Year Close $ | Price Gain % | ||
It is said that the "market" (meaning the S&P 500 Index) has earned an annualized 10% for its 75 years, but the S&P 500 gain rate has been increasing. AI has become big in the market, we should see an exceptional gain when this Iran and oil thing is over. 2026 is Not included because the current year is not complete yet. Withdrawals above will reduce these numbers.
The previous 5 years is
The previous 10 years is
The previous 15 years is
The previous 20 years is
The previous 30 years is
The previous 40 years is
There is a large difference, long term. Example: 11% for 20 years is 1.1120 = 8.06x gain. 14% for 20 is years is 1.1420 = 13.7x gain. 14% for 30 is years is 1.1430 = 50.95x gain. 2x is double, 8x is double three times, 16x is 4 times. So it really matters long term. Total return means all dividends were reinvested to grow, which is huge long term.
Annualized is very conventional, all Morningstar gain data (of 3, 5, 10, or 15 complete years) is annualized. It means this computed Fixed gain rate (same rate is assumed every year) was computed from the actual result. It did not happen that way, the market continually goes up and down in a very confusing way, but this computed fixed rate will produce the exact same actual result (in the same time). The point is a fixed rate is familiar and can be understood, and can be compared to other annualized situations in the same time frame (like comparing performance of two or three stocks). There is more description here.
Chart bottom summary row: Withdrawn sum values are shown in RED. Added values are black. Left side of bottom row are column Sums.
On right side of the table are simple price gains or losses (of individual years), of all rows 1970-2026, except 2026 which is an incomplete year. Annualized Return % are in the Depletion test of the year spans (shown in the Withdrawal Survival Depletion table next below). Just to be clear, columns 3 & 4 on bottom summary row may contain two lines itself. Column 1 and 2 (withdrawals) are very thin if empty.
Share price gain does not include dividends, but this table above adds them back in as reinvested which is a very major thing long term. Withdrawn dividends are withdrawals, and gone, not counted as fund performance.
Calculation Procedure: All years are year end data, except the current year YTD (meaning, the mid-year bottoms and highs may have been different, before being updated at year end). To avoid needing any count of shares, it is dollar based, this way: Each years initial fund value is the preceding year end dollar value, plus the percentage gain of the share price gain or loss, plus the percentage gain of the reinvested dividend (all based on applicable year end price, unless dividends are withdrawn), plus any deposits added during the year, less any withdrawals. Withdrawal percentages that are computed on the start of the year, so that is not precisely a real world happening if actually later in the year. Added contribution percentages are added at year end, but last row cumulative Total Return must not annualize the incomplete current year.
There is some unavoidable precision loss in this calculator. The the price and dividend gains are rounded to only 3 or perhaps 4 significant digits, so the 7 or 8 digit dollar amounts are not more precise. The only reason I include the cents is that some might want to repeat the same calculations. The gains and dividends do have the year end annualized factual summary data, and the calculator does appear to be pretty close to actual final past fund results. The S&P funds match the same S&P dividend percentage proportionately (but exactly only every quarter). The "Gain + Div" column is just the sum of the years gains, but Dividend is not included in the fund if it is instead withdrawn.
All chart values are year end values except for 2026 being a incomplete partial year. We don't know the current years final dividend percentage until we know the end of the year price. Events within the year can be exciting, but some of the intermediate history and larger changes might be hidden, since only the year end is shown. For example, the 2020 Covid pandemic dropped to -34% March 20, but recovered a new record high in five months, and was at +16% at year end. There was also a sudden -20% low 12/24/2018, but it was only a -6% drop at year end, and its rapid total recovery of course continued to new record highs over four months. The market has always recovered, but the very worst times may take a year or two. It goes up and down every day.
Fund expense fees may seem small, but that percentage is every year, and becomes large as it grows and compounds. Enter your S&P 500 Index fund fee as zero to see the difference it makes after accumulating many years. S&P 500 funds exist with a wide range of fees, but a very small fund fees are available and advantageous, and less expense is an earning plus. I like the Vanguard VFIAX fund, with a 0.04% fee each year, which is $400 fee when its value is one million, which is quite appealing.
Many new investors mistake stock dividends for "free money" or a bonus check. In reality, understanding the mechanics of a dividend is the difference between a stagnant portfolio and a compounding powerhouse.
1. The Dividend Myth: A dividend is NOT a gift of "New Free Income"
The most important thing to understand is that a dividend is a forced withdrawal from your investment. But you can put it back.
2. The Power of the Dividend ReInvestment Plan (DRIP)
Since a dividend reduces your investment value, the only way to "restore" your position is to put that money back to work immediately. This is known as Dividend ReInvestment. Funds buy and sell in dollar values, and can handle the fractional shares of dividends. The market cannot handle fractional shares for stocks, which trade in whole shares, but the DRIP plan is a way for stocks to handle fractional dividend reinvestment. Any stock splits will also include any fractional shares. Dividend Reinvestment is tremendous for long term investment.
Example fractional details: This is very important. Making up numbers, if the dividend is $0.79 per share, and you have 100 shares, that dividend is $79.00 total. If the share price is currently say $82.23, then that buys 79.00 / 82.23 = 0,9607 shares (virtually always includes fractional shares). Funds buy and sell in dollar values, and can handle the fractional shares of dividends, it is just a number in their own system. But the market cannot handle fractional shares for stocks, which only trade in whole shares. However the DRIP plan is a way for stocks to invisibly handle fractional dividend reinvestment. Your brokerage can put only the tiny fractional part into a fund containing only that one stock ticker, which accumulates, but is basically invisible except you always see the overall total share count including the fraction. That fractional part is automatically returned when the total number of whole shares is sold (may take a day or so).
That may sound like a tiny number, but compounding means that a dividend four times a year for 30 years to retirement is a totally awesome number, MANY times larger reinvested than if always withdrawn. Overall, we are talking Millions here long term. Always select your brokerages option to reinvest dividends. If a doubter, see the reinvestment chart below of the actual S&P 500 results.
3. The Tax Reality
A dividend was before technically an "unrealized gain" (that your shares already were when you could not put the money in your bank or pocket). But after being converted to cash, the IRS treats it as "realized gain", meaning taxable income in the year it is paid (it was a withdrawal distribution to you, and the gain in it is taxed, whether you reinvest it or not).
4. Survival During Market Crashes
The history of the US market is punctuated by severe crashes — 1929, 1974, 2001, 2008, and 2022, and others more minor too. These moments are terrifying, but they are also when reinvesting is most powerful. Think of the low price you are paying then, and the gain at recovery. It will recover. Recovery probably takes at least a few months, maybe even a year or more, but it will recover. The market has always recovered, since business does continue on. If a major worry, you should take a quick look at a crash summary to get the correct idea about crash durations and the worth of S&P 500 Index investments. Yes, there have been bad crashes, and market rules have been corrected, but crashes can still happen, but notice there are so many more good years than bad ones.
The Bottom Line about Dividends
Dividends are not a "gift", but they are an opportunity to acquire a few free shares. If you spend the dividend, you are slowly eroding your investment base. If you reinvest it, you are fueling a compounding engine that can turn a modest portfolio into a multi-million dollar retirement.
Action Item: Check your brokerage settings today and ensure "Automatic Dividend Reinvestment" is turned ON for all your holdings. Not all stocks offer dividends, but many established companies do.
For other details about the market, also try A few Market Things you need to know if you don’t already.
Withdrawals and additions will be included here.. The Test Mode computes starting an S&P 500 fund in many past years (computes 57 starting years with up to 1540 year situations if no depletion failures) and watches for the fund going bust due to specified withdrawals. The future is of course unknown, but this is what has actually happened in the past. Some market rules were added all along, but this can show the possible real effects to be ready for. The 1970s and 2000s were not good times, however we survived it, and the other years, and the last dozen years, have mostly done quite well.
The Lowest Year Value is of course typically near the starting year, but withdrawals or a later crash can lower it too. Every start year from 1970 on is shown, which can show overall fund gain results when starting any year (including any withdrawals or investments specified above). The future will be different, but we might expect similar events, sometime.
The Depletion Test shows results of All start years since 1970, but the calculator shows only its one start year. But for example, if the Test says 2000 to 2008 goes bust, you can also run the calculator manually from any Start Year of interest (like that 2000) to reproduce the intermediate year details of the results of any start year failure.
Annualized Return % is what you want to see, it works like we imagine that Average Return might work, but doesn't. Average is about individual years, but Annualized Return includes compounding of the span of years (that actually happened).
NOTE: 2026 is not yet a complete year, and its Annualization must be omitted from the Depletion Test, because Annualized Return shown requires complete years, and it will inaccurate if the current partial year is included. Each year uses their year end result individually, but spans of full years are compounded over the years. Starting 12 months back from current date is a complete year, but annualization of YTD from 1 January is accurate only once on 1 Jan of next year.
Any withdrawals and the starting investment are as currently specified in the calculator above. And then the Total Value field is the sum of the withdrawals and final fund value. Withdrawal columns are not shown in table below if none.
Note that an annual withdrawal will be included in every starting year span that includes that year. Each line in this S&P 500 table is a new starting year situation.
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"Anualz Gain" spelling is just to reduce the screen width. It is the Annualized Gain that computes the Fixed gain rate that is the SAME overall gain result AS IF it were this FIXED rate gain every year. Annualized gain is easier understood than the markets mixed gains, and is the exact Same Gain Result in the same time period.
The right-hand Annualized column is the accumulation of all the years from 1970 (the top one is not yet complete). The S&P 500 Index shows just the share price gain, but reinvested dividends are included here.
The first half of the 1970s, and the 2000s decade, were an ordeal to suffer through (and were lost years market-wise), but then when corrected, the times got great. 2001 and 2008 were separate crashes, the first had recovered when the second one hit, which then took longer. 2022 was also quite bad, but it recovered more quickly. But long term does recover and has been impressive.
% Annualized gain = ((1 + Percentage Gain/100)1/n years) - 1) × 100
Is the Fixed gain each year that gives the Same Equal Gain Result in the Same Time.
The fixed Annualized gain is not the way it actually happened, but it is the smoothed exactly same result in the same time, which is good for comparing gains. Because the Fixed rate Annualized gain is more understandable than the varied market gains, some years up big, some smaller, and a few years even negative loss. That makes it difficult to understand what actually happened. The overall Total Return percentage gain is what actually happened, but how many years did it take? The Annualized rate factors in the years of duration for an understandable result.
All this S&P 500 data is history, Not the future, but it has actually happened, and some of it possibly could happen again. The -11% and 2% five year dips shown are at the ending value of the five year periods. The worst of those multi-year negative dips reached about -50% in 1973, 2000, and 2008, but recovered somewhat by the end of the five year interval shown in this table. The bottom on 12 Oct 2022 was -25%. Much better financial rules seem to be in place now to help the market now, but all five year periods are Not alike, and some could include bad market times (it is called "risk" and we do have politicians in Congress interested in getting votes). Still, if it is a worthy investment, hang in there, it does routinely recover, always has, with good gains long term. Even with a few seriously bad years, if without withdrawals, the cumulative long term compounding effect should be evident and mighty impressive.
Retirement: Maybe 30 or 40 years seems a long time away, but if you're young, you have a long time. Don't waste it. Nevertheless, realize that the need for money will still be extremely important during your retirement. Because retirement typically means no more job or salary, so you will need planned investment savings to live on. You might have maybe 20 to 30 more years during retirement too, but the early investment grown large can continue growing during retirement too. So realize retirement age is definitely coming, and planning for it now would be very wise, and maybe allow travel and cruises then too. There are obvious advantages of having sufficient money during retirement. You might be able to plan for this in later life, however the compounding of many years of Time will be your overwhelmingly Best Investment Tool, or your Worst Wasted Loss if you ignore planning it now. So start now while you still have time for it to work great. It will be too late after you need it. Realize the importance of the goal, and keep your eye on the prize. Bigger plans are possible, but an easy way is that if just $10,000 were put into a S&P 500 Index fund (for example VFIAX) in 1980 (45 years ago) and left untouched (during good times and bad), it would be a couple of Million now, in spite of a few seriously bad times (S&P has always recovered). The time takes care of it. The best plan is to start early and leave the remainder alone and withdraw nothing else until retirement needs make it necessary. Of course, adding a little to it all along is a very good thing too (especially if in down markets, to buy low).
The Message again: Start Very Early, decades before you will need money for retirement. And until retirement, leave it untouched and working.
It's a huge mistake to think of stock dividends as New income to be withdrawn, because it is certainly not. Dividends are withdrawn from your fund, and to be sent it to you. Stock and fund dividends are instead simply a withdrawal of your own prior gains. That withdrawal becomes realized gain (distributed to you) and is taxed each year (is taxed if rein vested or not, because it was already withdrawn from your fund). The reinvestment increases the existing investment cost value by the same dollar value (so that amount will not be taxed again). The dividend is simply a withdrawal from your earned investment. But dividend reinvestment will put it back (as additional free shares) to keep the same investment value. You should know the whole picture.
The same is also true of bond fund dividends, however dividends are Not a withdrawal from directly owned bonds, which pay simple interest and are redeemed at maturity at the full face value that was purchased.
A company's publicly held capitalized value is their number of existing stock shares multiplied by one share's price value. Microsoft and Nvidia's stock value this way each computes to be $4 or $5 Trillions. The idea of the dividend is to distribute some of the company profit to the stock owners as "realized gain". The dividend money paid out (as a few dollars per share) was subtracted from the company's value, as a cash payment to you. This withdrawal reduces the company's value by millions, so the stock price (which reflects the remaining value of the company) is automatically and equally reduced by the same dollars per share when the dividend is paid. Due to that corresponding stock price drop, your value sum (of the paid dividend and your remaining stock value) remains exactly the same sum value as before the dividend, i.e., there is no gain on that day. Yes, the stock price did drop, and the fund value dropped, but you did not lose anything either — You already owned that stock distributing the dividend, and you do have that cash difference now (in your pocket, no longer in the stock value). It was simply a withdrawal, leaving a reduced remaining investment. There is no gain and no loss, not from the dividend on that day, but future gain will be reduced. The distribution was just from the company's stock value that you already owned before, but now is instead transferred to your cash. The best and most optimal thing to do is to reinvest that dividend, which retains today's fund value, and it will also become additional shares for greater future compounded growth.
Dividends are NOT New income. Dividends are simply a withdrawal of some prior unrealized gain, reducing your fund value by the same dollar amount. But if reinvested, then each 1% dividend gives you 1% new free shares (like 4 times a year), which is a huge long term plus.
Another page here has much more detail about stock and fund dividends. It also tells the way you can reinvest stock dividends.
Compared to "What Could Have Been if still earning": Withdrawals from funds, including dividend withdrawals, can cost much more loss long term than you might imagine, and might even be a fatal bust in bad market times. True of any withdrawals, but the setup of selecting dividend withdrawal likely continues forever unchanged. You might enjoy receiving a small withdrawal a few times a year, but should be horrified when you realize the actual total cost lost easily can reach many times what you received.
This next example is the S&P 500 Index fund started with $25000, from start of the year shown to 1/4/2026. It is without any additional investment, and investing a little more all along is a fine plan (see Option 4), but the reinvested dividend also adds a few free shares each quarter. S&P 500 dividends vary but the ballpark is maybe 2% a year, but it is every quarter of every year. The really big thing is that the growing investment becomes a large value long term. Data is from the S&P 500 table above, including 2026.
End date of each row is the current 2026 YTD.
| S&P 500 | Reinvested Dividends | Overall Cost of Withdrawing all Dividends | |||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| $25K Start | Years | Fund Value No WD $ | Dividends $ reinvested | Fund Value after WD $ | Dividends $ Withdrawn | End Value $ Fund + WD | Cost to Withdraw |
The cost of withdrawals (WD) is the money "that could have been" (if reinvested), which is repeatedly minus the dividend amount, and minus its future earnings and compounding if withdrawn. This chart adds the withdrawn dividends back to its Total Return, but which does not make up for its lost gains and compounding. You can easily see the result yourself, just click Withdraw Dividends in the calculator above, and get these same numbers.
Whatever your age and purpose, this dividend withdrawal cost is very counterproductive, which is quite important to realize early. Reinvest all your dividends.
Retirement is definitely going to happen, so try to imagine yourself, at age 65, beginning retirement (which could last 30 more years, say to age 95) with no salary, so no money, and no hopes. Many people retire with $100K or $300K of savings, which may sound big, but likely won't last 10 years. This will become mighty serious then, but true wonders can be worked if you have years to prepare for it. I am suggesting a S&P 500 fund very early, meaning now. The years are your best tool if smart enough to make use of them, the years of compounding is the least expensive way to prepare, and the more years, the better (so start early, meaning now). Use all the years you've got. Be smart, don't waste them. Your fund will also continue earning during those 30 years while withdrawing living expenses, but withdrawals will slow it, and could terminate it if insufficient. If you only have say ten years to start with, it will be a lot more expensive. Perhaps you will simply become rich and not need any more money, but that typically is not a good bet, and even otherwise, a little more can't hurt.
The years help much, but the best sufficient plan is to continue adding more money all along, each month or year, at least a few thousand a year, and more is better. Investing more during market bad times is a particularly good investment plan (to buy low, and then recover high). When it is low, don't jump in fast, not all at once, but do it 2 or 3 times spaced out to give it time to go lower. It likely will go some lower for awhile. A big crash can take quite awhile to bottom, often a few months. It's impossible for anyone to judge when it bottoms accurately, but buying any low is an improvement. In regular times, there are still more short mild times, down 10% or so, and investors buy in them too.
Bad times are NOT when its just a company or two, that is about them, and worse things conceivably could happen. Kodak and Polaroid were such cases, but that is only 2 of 500 companies. I am speaking to buy low in bad market times, when most companies are well down, not due to any fault of any of them. It's a market thing, not some one stock thing. Often a market crash occurs out of the blue when the common thinking is the market was too high to be supported and too many people are scared of it and sold their shares, or could be political or economic problems like inflation. So normally when the S&P 500 market index is substantially down, don't be scared and sell low, but don't skip buying in those bad times if you can raise the money, which actually is your best buying time, when most others are so scared and are panic selling, ensuring their permanent loss. It is a scary and very uncomfortable time, but you know the market has always recovered (sometimes worst times have taken a year of two, but you've got the years, and buying more low then will be profitable). Give the S&P 500 chart above some thought. You should also be sure to at least see a quick look at this one to get the past situations and the correct idea about the worth of S&P 500 Index investments. There are bad times, but most of it is great. The S&P 500 was started in 1956, 70 years ago, with the point that it has always recovered (obviously true, since it is still here).
Just throwing money into the market without knowing what you're doing will normally have a bad result, which is not the case when buying a S&P 500 fund, but otherwise, most market newcomers lose money, at least for awhile, because it needs learning a little about the market, about how to pick companies with good financials, good earnings that keep increasing, good cash flow, etc, and also with a good plan to increase future earnings. Investing in your favorite grocery store products, clothing, or cosmetic items is not often the best bet. Technical things, like AI (including the companies building the AI data centers), or semiconductors are often top gainers.
If that learning won't happen, a S&P 500 fund has a very good reputation for those not market savvy. It is not about picking companies. The S&P 500 is the 500 largest U.S. companies with public stock (and which were selected by the S&P 500). It goes up and down too of course, but it has always recovered. Pick a S&P 500 fund with a low fee (less than 0.1%). Except for this expense, all S&P 500 funds are otherwise essentially the same. Vanguard, Fidelity, or Schwab would be good. They all just try to match the S&P 500 Index, good or bad (See more detail at this page). The S&P 500 will vary year to year, some years will be +30% and very few years have been maybe as much as -50% (which is when buying low really pays off). But overall long term, the market the last 100 years is said to normally compute 10% every year, which is a good expectation. That does not literally mean every year, the years go up and down, but it means the final result is the exact same return as if it were that Fixed rate every year (called Annualized Return). My opinion (only a guess) is I think the market is doing a bit better now, which should continue, and maybe it should be 12%, and 12% compounding is a pretty big deal (approaching double gain more than 10%). There will always still be ups and downs, but don't sweat the small things day to day.
One warning, chasing the hottest companies is very volatile, and might work for awhile, but the strong bet is there will come the day it is suddenly way down. The saying is those that get rich chasing the hottest stocks do not stay rich long. Mutual funds (buying many companies) do Not invest in these for that dangerous reason.
Every year of 10% compounding means each year grows by 10%. Not in actuality, it goes up and down, but in final gain results. That smooths out the +30% and -50% numbers, but with the same result (called annualized return). 10% for 30 years compounding is 1.1030 = 17.4x times the principle, without adding anything. But if the investment was $10K, that is only $174K. That won't be enough, so two choices: Principle investment of $100K is $1.74 million, but adding some extra all along is the easier plan. Plan on future inflation demands too, but the market should keep up with inflation (after awhile). Add a safety margin for unexpected happenings. FWIW, a good goal for a couple retiring today is At Least $2 million. Double that would be safer and more comfortable. Most will think that making millions sounds impossible, but ample preparation and the years can do it (but you need to stick with it). Years of future inflation could double that cost a time or two. The better senior homes today (that offer real Assisted Living with guaranteed entry if and when needed) typically have about a 3/4 Million deposit on first day, just in case. Because when incapacitated, you likely would not be able to pay even if you had the money. Think in those terms, it is real. There are of course much cheaper places but they do nothing medical, no nurses, etc, but medical problems can arrive in retirement. You can leave any excess for inheritance to your family beneficiaries, which seems a good duty to plan.
It takes years to plan and prepare for your retirement, but long term compounding is very effective. The first years don't build so much while the investment is small, but when the fund grows to a lot of money, it takes off. Like it takes money to make money. If the money has years to grow, that really helps. The years of compounding are a really strong help. Meaning, be smart, start early, as big as you can.
Remember, the bottom line is that retirement will arrive, and will no longe have a salary, which could then last for 30 more years (to age 95). Hopefully your finances last too. Please give this some thought, now. Look into it, try to believe it. It is going to become very important to you some day, and then there is not much you can do at retirement age. You need to have already made your millions. That can take awhile, so you need to be started.
Conventional advice is that near retirement time, your money should be moved to safe places, like Treasury bonds, so it will not go down when you need it, and so there is no need to worry about it. Another thought is with enough extra savings, even if it is down 50%, it will still be enough. It will still recover, but the timing is unknown.
Here are some obvious thoughts. Yes, 50 years is a long time, but many of you can easily build a retirement plan for 20 or 30 or even 40 years. Plus retirement itself for many lasts 30 years longer (say to age 95). You can plan on having the investment still growing then, even if also withdrawing living expenses. The closer that retirement gets, the scarier loss of salary can finally get, meaning today should be the day to start planning for it. Today certainly should be your retirement plan and goal, to be able to live comfortably 30 years with no salary. Do always reinvest all dividends, to keep restoring and maintaining your investment value, which will compound to your final value. Start preparing retirement income a few decades early, TODAY IS THE BEST time remaining. And adding a little more all along is helpful too. Death and taxes are the sure things, and retirement normally comes before death, perhaps a long retirement (which is becoming common now). Do you have plans for that? Your best investment tool is to plan to use the many long term years of compounding that might be yet available. The numbers in the calculator here are the actual past 56 years of market results as a guide of what has happened, and depending on future election results, the future market results are looking even better. IMO. There were several quite bad times in those past years too, but the 56 years still earned 12% Annualized (and $25K grew to $11+ million in 56 years).
Age 35 has 30 years (to plan retirement at 65), and age 25 has 40 years, if they are wise enough to start today while they have the years. A later start will require more starting money. And of course, it also can also continue to gain during retirement, but the retirement withdrawals limit the growth then. But if dividends are withdrawn quarter after quarter, the withdrawals seriously reduce the fund's future worth, which then also very seriously reduces your future long term net worth capability.
Sure, meanwhile other things in your life will always seem financially important, but retirement income will become extremely important when it is too late to do it. There are always alternatives, living under the bridge on the streets works for some, but is not a good plan. One good plan is to put some money into a S&P 500 fund (one with low fee costs), add more money to it all along, and don't even think about touching it until retirement. Sure, you could become rich another way and be able to afford it later, but the way to bet is to start today, just in case. Retirement with no salary will happen, whether your wealth happens or not.
The quarter after quarter of reinvested dividends add free shares (at no additional cost) continue compounding the earning even in retirement. There are usually 120 dividends in 30 years. Planning retirement income should be a major plan, easier if done early when it works best. Young people will have other things to think about, and may not yet realize that years of retirement without any salary likely will come their way, but I assure you it will, and can become very scary (when it is too late to help it). Now is the easiest time to prepare well for it, before it is too late. We could die at age 50, but the odds are against it. Longer plans need earlier planning, and time for compounding is your best tool, plan to use it wisely. Retirement could last 30 years, and accomplishing a few million dollars will come in extremely handy and comfortable then.
The calculator above shows that investing only $100, and adding $100 a month without fail, would have grown to $638K in 30 years, but you can also add some all along. We have had some tough times in those past years too. It will make a huge difference to do that in a ROTH instead of an IRA or 401 (a 401 just becomes an IRA at retirement). An IRA seems nice that it allows numerous buy and sell transaction that are tax free, until actual withdrawal from the IRA. And then IRA pays regular income tax rates on all of it, 100% of it (every penny) withdrawn, and a few million in IRA becomes a huge taxable RMD. There is no Capital gains tax rates on IRA money. Capital gains on standard investments is less, but still considerable. A ROTH is tax free, but only allows minimal annual additions, and there are no withdrawals allowed until age 59. It is best if any of these are a self-directed account, where you can invest as you please. It is when the fund gets large that the compounding really kicks in. Doubling $1000 is only $2000, but think of doubling a million or two. My hope is that people that have Never given it a thought might wake up and make some plans for the future while there is time. Try to be smart about it, and a good part of that is to know that the years is your best investment tool.
Withdrawals are the intended plan during retirement. Perhaps there could be true necessities requiring withdrawal before retirement, but withdrawals before retirement come at a high cost long term.
Long term, reinvesting dividends is a major part of S&P earnings. That ought to get your attention. Do you really need to withdraw that (maybe about 1 or 2%) dividend each year, or would it (and its compounded future earnings) be better used at retirement? You might not be aware how very expensive that withdrawing dividends gets long term, but it certainly does, and there are choices. Reinvesting the dividend would add its additional shares every year for considerably more growth every year, greatly affecting final income for retirement. The exact gain values depend on market performance in the past decades, but that's true withdrawn or not, so the degree of cost of Withdrawal Loss depends on the years of duration of the compounding gains.
So if you're going to invest, then do that, and leave it there until retirement, and watch it grow.
Fund Fees: The fees are also a continuous withdrawal. Try entering your fund fee as zero to see the difference that compounding of lost earnings cost there. Be sure you are entering the correct fee for your specific S&P fund (fees do vary significantly). The cost of the fee every year is much more than just the fee. It also continues to cost the lost earnings on it every year, compounded over the years. You definitely want to find a low fund fee.
The compounding over many years makes the long term expense of regular withdrawals become extremely high, compared to "what could have been". As the withdrawal percent increases, the fund value decreases so then it earns less, and so the dollar amount of any percentage withdrawal total also drops. The 2% case is comparable to just withdrawing all the S&P 500 dividends, the effect is the same. It should be a sobering thought. I don't mean to be preachy, but awareness is my goal. At least evaluate the actual need first. Just because it is there seems the worst reason to withdraw it. The best reason for withdrawals to wait is that your need is likely greater at retirement time. A common purpose of mutual funds is of course for the withdrawals to support retirement, but that idea is to first invest for 20 or 30 years without withdrawals to build up the fund, so you can have something to withdraw in retirement. You can take action on that NOW. Do realize that you are not simply subtracting the withdrawals. The big deal is that you are also subtracting all the years of compounded gains those withdrawals could have earned (which is a hugely larger number). The better idea is to let the fund accumulate something first. See Example 8 below.
The magic of the gains is that the growth is compounded, with the gains earning more gains, year after year, increasing dramatically after a couple of decades. But continuous withdrawals are a real big thing affecting a fund, reducing the gains and the compounding, again over many years. If you withdraw more, you get much less. You can see the result yourself in the calculator above. Imagine investing $25,000 one initial time in a S&P 500 fund for 50 years (historic S&P 500 data from 1970). That span could be at your age 25 to 75. If you're young, you need to realize those many available years are the huge magic opportunity, which diminishes if you wait. Just ten years might be impressive, but 50 years is simply awesome.
Just to be clear, withdrawals during retirement are certainly an expected main purpose of the market funds, but earlier withdrawals are detrimental to that possible "what could have been" retirement income. This is especially true during long term, when the compounding can make so much difference.
If not withdrawing, the fund will not go bust (but could go below your minimum). Very bad times in the past have dropped it to near 50%, but not to very near zero. Hopefully some newer market rules will help. That will certainly be very worrisome then and requires waiting for its recovery, but if you let it ride, it will recover, but retirees may not have that option. The market has always recovered (but which sometimes could take a year or two). But withdrawing it then just makes the loss real and permanent. The S&P 500 companies are very well established, and it will come back. Following here are a few examples of that in the last 50 years.
This is looking at some choices with investment starting with $25,000, to show the good effect of minimizing withdrawals. The example results are more in agreement with the 2026 totals, but it has been nearly a year and the market has grown. But the point is still the same. The exact result values in these examples will vary from the last 2026 result entered in the calculator chart (the text in these examples below is Not updated with every days current price change, but the calculator itself will recalculate from the last price entered.) You can of course then adjust the values to fit your goals. Again, these results are computed from the past years in history, and future results are not known. The standard qualifying words are: Past performance is no guarantee of future results.
Examples 1-10:
1. Start at 1970: (55 years until today) If with no withdrawals of any kind, $25K grew to $9+ Million today. This is the pages initial default case. The message is: Start your investing early. It will be all-important when you near retirement age.
So try some things in the calculator. Bad years are survivable, but withdrawals may not be. (Again, the future is unknown.)
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2. However, withdrawing all dividends (from $25K start, but never setting up reinvestment of dividends) instead reduces gains of less money working, which seriously drops to "only" $1.7 Million, plus $412K withdrawals (instead of $9+ million if no withdrawals). That result is an 85% loss of the gains possible, and is same as an annualized loss of 3.3% every year. That was over 55 years, but DO NOT ignore the long term importance of reinvesting dividends. The dividend may be small, like maybe 2%, but it repeats and compounds and grows, every year. And this certainly also applies equally to any and all withdrawals, which are very nonproductive long term.
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3. Or instead of dividends, continuous withdrawal of $100 per month (totaling $65K in 55 years) dropped the fund to $17K in 1974 (which was particularly bad times), but it survived, and grew to $2.9 Million in 53 years. However that $65K of withdrawals cost $3.5 Million of the gains in example 1 (over 53 years). Perhaps you might have only 30 years to invest until retirement, but then you might also still have 30 years of retirement too. Give that some thought concerning withdrawals. However withdrawing anything so early is far from wise. The fund needs to build more money to survive bad times.
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A few more things you might see here about how things work.
More money in the fund does last longer. Change the $25000 to $30000 and click Test, and the $200/month withdrawal does not fail starting in 1970.
The Main Point here is to know to let the fund grow without withdrawals the first few decades, to first grow enough to survive the bad times, and still be there for the recovery that is coming. That greater growth (without withdrawals) also provides considerably more retirement money too, which should be a major concern. You should realize that early withdrawals are very costly, costing greatly more future earnings than they return now.
While it may not be intuitive during the bad times of gloom and doom and worry about the market, but actually, those low points are exactly the right time to be adding more money then (to buy low), making recovery gains grow dramatically. The low points would be the worst time to sell it off. It recovers, but it could take a year or two.
4. This might get your attention... a more expected procedure. 30+ years S&P 500 investment followed by 22+ years of $60K per year withdrawals in retirement.
Continual withdrawals beginning Day One is NOT a normal plan. To make the fund count with greater gains, let it build for many years until retirement time, and only then start withdrawing to help replace salary. Or maybe if already retired and you have some savings that are not earning anything, but need it to help with immediate withdrawals for living expenses. The S&P is capable with higher gains that have averaged about 10% a year. Some years more, and some years less, and some even negative several times. And it has been a BIG negative (near -50%) a few times. Again, the S&P 500 is the stocks of the 500 largest USA companies, relatively safe IMO. Market crashes can certainly still occur, but they always recover eventually. But when moving savings, do realize there is market risk, stocks can lose value (and unless it is IRA or 401, moving is likely a taxable event).
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But always check the Depletion test. This example does go bust at 4 start years near 2000. But deferring these withdrawals even five years supports the withdrawals to make a big difference.
This past data includes several really poor years (possibly typical), so caution is advised in the future real world. This idea is to let it grow to a substantial value before starting withdrawals, and then keep an eye out on the gain of future years then. If the average gain is keeping up with the average withdrawal, it will work. The average S&P gain has been near 11%, but 2000 began three years averaging about -15% (which then of course still did recover). Starting 1970 looks real good, but the Test shows a few failure starting years around 1997 (because the new fund had not grown much before the bad years starting at 2000).
5. An IRA account has a $6000 annual contribution limit, which increases a bit every few years. This example starts Dec 31 1979 with first $6000, and then continuously add the maximum tax-free contribution of $500 per month ($6000 per year IRA limit until 2004, contribution totaling $150K in the 25 years). It grew to $1 million in that time (which included the 2000s decade), and to $5.9 Million in the next 22 years until now. There will be a lot of tax owed on the IRA (regular income tax rate too, no capital gains in IRA), but you would like that at retirement time, it certainly seems worthwhile. If it were Roth, it would be tax free and also allow larger contributions.
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6. Start at 2000: About the worst staring year, the entire 2000 decade were poor. But Buy low, when it is down, except it gets worse and more attractive in 2008. The 2000s were really bad times with two severe crashes in the decade (2001 and 2008), so bad it didn't recover until 2010. But if no withdrawals of any kind, $25K still grew to $124K today, which is not too shabby, about 5x, and 7+% Annualized Return (even starting in 2000). And the Test result shows this same thing (as no withdrawals), starting in every year, same $109K if starting in 2000.
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But then instead of withdrawing anything, adding more money at the low points is the special opportunity to see dramatically greater gains in the recovery. Adding $25K more in 2002 (doubling original investment when price was down about 40%, and things looked so bad) would total $282K in 2021. We can't time the bottom, so had this been the plan, you'd done it earlier, and continued adding all along.
7. Start at 2009: (12 years) These were the better good times, building from the previous 2008 lows, and if with no withdrawals, $25K in 2000 grew to $165K in about that time. But economic and political pressures can hurt the market, so there is always risk. But so far, the market has always recovered and continued the gains.
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Perhaps of the most interest to the concept, 8 and 9 are results of two of what turned out to be the worst-timed bad investment times (unavoidable because the future is unknown. But it does recover.)
8. Start a $25K investment at 1973 right before the 1974 crash and see it drop 40% then. But don't touch it for 51 years, and then start withdrawing 8% in 2000 (just in time for a really BAD decade, which turned out to be some of the worst scary times, but your fund had resources by then to withstand it). So from 2000, start 22 years of retirement withdrawals totaling $1 M, varying widely but averaging perhaps about $42K annually (about $3500 monthly, but varying). And it still leaves about $670K remaining today, maybe for inheritance (often a goal). The entire cost to you was the original $25K (this is past history, it cannot predict the future, but there are better times than this example hits).
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However, the abnormally large 9% withdrawals in the first three years of the 2000 downturn were detrimental. But if instead of 9%, try withdrawing a fixed $4000 a month (button 2, starting at year 2000 again) works if starting in 1973, but this fails early if not starting until the 1980s. Or limit it a bit by doing both, but limited to the smallest option 3, which leaves more in the fund. A large fixed withdrawal in a small fund hits the down years heavy. Whereas a reasonable percentage (assuming dollar amount is readjusted each year) is a smaller withdrawal in those down years. But even $200/month starting at Day One (when fund is small) fails several starting years.
But also try Option 3 then. A good plan is to use button option 3, with say BOTH of the same 10% and $5000 withdrawals in Option 3 as limits on each others extremes, which might limit a few years to be a little less, but which lets it build more, and then it runs in all years without failure. And it leaves quite a lot to provide inheritance. A percentage withdrawal may not be so much when the fund is low, but it won't go to zero and fail (if withdrawal dollars are adjusted accordingly each year). We can't know the future, but the total of all the many years is the really huge effect.
9. Start investment at 2000 right before those crashes. Start withdrawing 6% in 2003 (right after the first crash), which is 20 years of withdrawals totaling near $28K for average of about $1.4K annually, with $40K remaining today. The last decade (2010s) saw good market growth, doubling in spite of the withdrawals. This growth time is short, but starting with 2x more money would have 2x greater results. To get that greater money (still trying to get your attention), simply starting ten years earlier would have made the 6% be near $6K average annual income assistance, with $175K left. Or 20 years earlier would be about $29K withdrawals with $850K left. Or 30 years earlier for $51K withdrawals with $1.5 Million left. Time is the awesome tool.
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10. Starting the fund just before bad years is Not the best plan, but we can't know the future. It is only shown as a worst case. But one example that works anyway. Start in 1970 with $25K, and then with button 5, contribute $500/month until 2000 ($186K more) when worth $500K, and thereafter withdraw $4000 a month ($48K a year for $1.2 million, but limited to 10%), which still remains worth nearly $321K then Except if it were are an IRA, the large gain would surely make the RMD be greatly higher.
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These are just some examples from past history, but it is suggestive of the way things work, and the things that possibly (or typically) can happen in the future. There are noticeably more good years than bad, and the S&P 500 has always averaged about 10% annual gains, but there are a few down years. The bad times might last a year or two, and might drop 50%, but they have always fully recovered (2009 was special and took several years though). Withdrawing the money when it is down in bad times is the worst thing to do, because it absolutely guarantees that the loss becomes real and permanent. Instead adding more investment money when the market is low is a great opportunity offering large gains when the price recovers (buy low, sell high). Hang in there, stay the course. It can seem dark and gloomy and fearful at the time, but withdrawing all money then ends it all (and makes the loss very real). But the market has always recovered to continue the gains.
Also see next pages:
General info describing S&P 500, the market, the 4% Rule, dividends and bonds, etc.
Compounding and Annualized Return, and calculators
Stock Dividends are valuable, but withdrawing them is Not new income
S&P 500 daily Action, and Count of annual S&P 500 record highs